Investments/Round 4: Discretionary funding
Round 4: Discretionary funding |
“ | You're not meant to know the effects of the investments, or to have a firm grasp of your financial future. I understand the desire for it, but that's what wikis and guides are for. | ” |
— Sierra Lee[1]
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This page presents a compilation of all investments offered in the game, both those that can be funded by ProN, and Discretionary funds, and that one investment that is paid in Sx.
In addition to monetary profits and other effects, most investments also affect your relationship with your companions. Speaking with them will give you some hints.
Investment options become available after you arrive in Ari-Yhilina and foil the coup against the Widow Queen. The initial amount of ProN available to make investments depends on the amount of ProN you've given to Megail in Stineford. The minimum value is 50,000 and the maximum is 120,000[2]. Megail also offers you a ledger to keep track of your investments.
Sierra Lee has stated that you can make similar investments (for instance contracting two mercenary companies) to get better results, but it will be with diminishing returns.
You can spend your ProN in other avenues that don't appear as such in the Ledger[3]. They won't give profits in the form of ProN, but there will be other advantages to investing in them (most of them won't be shown in the game as such, but in the form of hidden advantages).
During Round 4: Discretionary funding and Round 6: Chapter 4 & 5 Investment smorgasbord you will receive funding several times during the round, these "sub-rounds" are referred to as "cycles" after this point.
Switches that look like this are named after the in code switches, some walkthrough pages will use them others won't. If there is only a single switch in both "Conditions" and "Advantages" sides it is likely the switch is used to indicate the switch for the investment itself. If there is more than one switch in either column, the other switches will have a foot note on how to set them ON.
So far, you get ProN returns from Megail at these points:
- At the start of chapter 2, although only 2 investments do so. They are marked in bold
- During the party split, Megail collects returns from some first-round investments in Ari-Yhilina. They are marked with this color.
- Near the end of chapter 2, when Simon returns from the Orgasmic Empire. They are marked with this color.
- During chapter 3, If Simon has the 2nd House of Petitions built, some of their personal assets will be turned into ProN before being shifted to the personal DF. These ProN returns are marked with this color
- At the end of chapter 3, after you have attended to the petitioners and pay your respects to the Fallen. They are marked with this color.
- In chapter 4 and 5, when you meet Megail in Stineford, and after major plot sequences. They are marked with This color
Pricing and other stuff associated with certain rounds are marked with that round's color (Note: To combat issues for the color blind pricing and Return on investment prices get an "RX:" in front of their numbers)
- Bold for round 1
- This color for round 2
- This color for round 3
- This color for Core Discretionary Funding
- This color for Personal Discretionary Funding
- This color for round 5
- This color for round 6
- This color for the round 6 Erosian war bonus Cycle
The following symbols are also used to provide information on investments
- N First time this investment is available
- ◀ This investment is only available during this round
- ◁ This investment is only available for about a cycle or less
- ◁(1) This investment is only offered once before becoming unavailable
- ▲ This investment has a (generally stronger version) available in (a) previous round(s)
- ▼ This investment has a (generally weaker version) available in (a) later round(s)
- ∞ This investment can be repeated indefinitely as long as the condition is met
Round 4: Governing Yhilin and Discretionary funding
After conquering Yhilin, you have to actually run the country. Thankfully, you've been spared from dealing with the details of the budget, but you have some amount of money that you can spend on projects of your choice. Unlike your usual investments, the costs are not denominated in ProN: instead, you allocate the necessary percentage of the available money to a task. Information about your remaining funds and general advice is provided by the helpful maid right inside the door of the House of Petitions.
Funding cycles and budget[edit | edit source]
Funding is a multi-stage process - you are able to assign funds while you are in Yhilin and then see the results when you return from missions outside. You get 100% funds at the start of each cycle in addition to the funds left over from the previous cycle. For example, if you have 20% remaining at the end of a cycle, you'll start the next one with 120%. As you progress in the development of Yhilin during chapter 3, you get a total of 450% to spend.
Prior to the Third Arclent War, there are five cycles of funding:
- After the invasion of Yhilin (while the Govern Yhilin quest is active).
- After you return from the Elven kingdoms (Govern Yhilin II).
- After you return from Zirantia (Govern Yhilin III, this and the next one).
- After you are done with the previous cycle (you only get 50% funds at the start).
- After you return from Eustrin (you can only do this cycle at the start of the section, and effects are immediate upon leaving the house of petitions even if they normally wouldn't be).
General Discretionary Funds
Point improvement and War cleanup investments[edit | edit source]
These investments are available from the start and are focused on improving (whether by decreasing or increasing) the chaos, collateral damage, and victory point scores that were earned during the invasion of Yhilin. In addition to repairing areas that were badly damaged during the fighting, and therefore restoring access to them.
Note Prime Something flags are set before Place X flags (and Economic Chaos) are turned off, meaning an additional round is needed before they can be set. For example: if Repair Merchant Quarter (sets Merchant Quarter X OFF is done during Govern Yhilin I, then Prime SuccBrothel will be set to on during Govern Yhilin III
Name | Location | Condition | Availability | Price | Next cycle changes | Cycle after the next[4] |
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Nobility Campaign[5] N ◀ ∞ | Palace | Victory Points < 25 |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
10% |
+3 Victory Points |
- |
20% |
+6 Victory Points |
- | ||||
Recover from collateral damage N ◀ | House of petitions | Yhilini Collateral Damage > 0 |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
10% |
-5 Yhilini collateral damage |
- |
Recover from chaos N ◀ | House of petitions | Yhilini Chaos is not 0 |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
10% |
-5 Yhilini Chaos |
- |
Undo Economic Chaos N ◀ | House of petitions |
Economic Chaos ON[7] |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
30% |
Economic Chaos OFF |
Prime SexTrade ON |
Repair Merchant Quarter N ◀ | House of petitions |
Merchant Quarter X ON[8] |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
25% |
Merchant Quarter X OFF |
Prime SuccBrothel ON |
Repair the Square N ◀ | House of petitions |
Square X ON[9] |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
20% |
Square X OFF |
- |
Repair the Court N ◀ | House of petitions |
Court X ON[10] |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
20% |
Court X OFF |
Prime Slush ON |
Repair Outskirts N ◀ | House of petitions |
Outskirts X ON[11] |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
10% |
Outskirts X OFF |
Prime RelInvest ON |
Repair Slums N ◀ | House of petitions |
Slum Shops X ON[12] |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
20% |
Slum Shops X OFF |
Prime OrcProg ON |
Repair Elven Ghetto N ◀ | House of petitions |
Elven Ghetto X ON[13] |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
15% |
Elven Ghetto X OFF |
Prime Elven II ON |
Profitable investments[edit | edit source]
Name | Location | Condition | Availability | Price | Next cycle changes | Profits |
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Private Mineshaft N ◀ ◁ | House of Petitions |
Before Elven kingdoms visit |
Govern Yhilin I |
25% |
Private Mineshaft OFF |
R5: 325,000 Lifetime: 1,365,000 |
Non-profitable investments[edit | edit source]
Name | Location | Condition | Availability | Price | Advantages | RP changes |
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DF Bridge Repair ▲ | House of petitions |
Bridge Repair OFF |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
10% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
|
- |
Infrastructure N ◀ | House of petitions |
Bridge Repair ON |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
100% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
Helps during the Border Incident
Gives Orc items at the Bloody Spire[15] |
+5 Hilstara |
Another House of Petitions N ◀ | House of petitions |
Yhilin Acceptance ≥ 30 |
Govern Yhilin I - IV |
25% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
|
- |
Mercenary regulations (Cities) N ◀ | House of petitions |
Second House of Petitions built |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
20% |
Immediate:
Increases Army Size by +1 for the Third Arclent War |
+2 Hilstara |
Mercenary regulations (Countryside) N ◀ | House of petitions |
Second House of Petitions built |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
100% |
Immediate:
Increases Army Size by +5 for the Third Arclent War |
+5 Hilstara |
Border reinforcement (Aram) N ◀ | House of petitions |
Elven kingdoms visited |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
50% |
Immediate:
Helps during the border incident when going to Eustrin. Helps during the Aram sections of the Third Arclent War.
|
+2 Esthera |
Border reinforcement (Ardoheim) N ◀ |
House of petitions |
Elven kingdoms visited |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
50% |
Immediate:
Helps during the Ardoheim and Stineford sections of the Third Arclent War
|
+2 Esthera |
Succubus immigration N ◀ | House of petitions |
Elven kingdoms visited |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
25% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
Helps during the Third Arclent War. Increases Army Size of succubus forces prior to the 3rd Arclent War.
|
+2 Yarra |
Magic standardization N ▼ | House of petitions |
Elven kingdoms visited |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
10% |
Immediate:
|
- |
Succubus guild fees N ◀ | House of petitions |
Elven kingdoms visited |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
20% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
Increases Army Size of succubus forces prior to the 3rd Arclent War. |
+2 Yarra |
National succubus trade N ▼ | House of petitions |
Local Sex Trade ON |
Govern Yhilin III - IV |
50%[19] to 100% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
Increases Army Size of succubus forces prior to the 3rd Arclent War. |
+5 Yarra |
Succubus Brothels[20] N ▼ | House of petitions |
Prime SuccBrothel ON[21] |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
10% |
Immediate:
Increases Army Size of succubus forces prior to the 3rd Arclent War. |
+2 Yarra |
Doom King statue N ▼ | House of petitions |
Prime DF Statue ON[22] |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
10%[23] to 20% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
|
After first interaction with the statue
|
Noble gratuity[24] N ◀ | House of petitions |
Prime Slush ON[25] |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
20% |
Immediate:
|
-5 Janine |
Monastery conversion (Shrine) N ▼ | House of petitions |
Prime RelInvest OFF[26] |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
5% |
Immediate: |
+10 Carina |
Monastery conversion (Aid Station) N ▼ | House of petitions |
Prime RelInvest OFF[26] |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
25% |
Immediate:
Helps during the coup during the Third Arclent War. |
+5 Carina |
FANCY WALK N ◀ | House of petitions |
Prime OrcProg OFF[28] |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
10% to 50%[29] |
Immediate:
Increases army size by +2 during the coup during the Third Arclent War |
+5 Balia |
Elven Ghetto improvement N ▼ | House of petitions |
Prime Elven II ON[30] |
Govern Yhilin II - IV |
50% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
Helps during the coup during the Third Arclent War. |
+5 Lynine |
Personal Discretionary Funds
Upon first entering the Second House of Petitions, Megail for socio-politics decides it is for the best to use your own money to fund the Slum petitions. After which a calculation, to determine how much Discretionary funds you have available occurs.
Available ProN, calculates the amount of ProN available depending on which investments you bought:
- Yhilin Bank[31]: 200,000
- Premium Steel[32]: 100,000
- Yhilin Mine Processing: 200,000
- Special Supplier: 25,000
- Stineford Magic Shop: 25,000 or 50,000[33]
- Ardoheim Magic Trade: 50,000 or 125,000[33]
- Yhilini Supplier: 10,000
- Aramite Supplier: 15,000
- Desert Bounty Office: 5,000
- Eustrin Manufacturer: 100,000
- Eustrin Supplier: 20,000
- Eustrin Processor: 100,000
With the following 2 Mercenary investments giving a penalty
The lowest possible value is 180,000 ProN[36]
After having calculated your ProN Megail turns it into an approximate amount for the Discretionary Funds based on the total Pron available
- 100% if Available Pron ≥ 900,000
- 90% if 900,000 > Available Pron ≥ 800,000
- 80% if 800,000 > Available Pron ≥ 700,000
- 70% if 700,000 > Available Pron ≥ 600,000
- 60% if 600,000 > Available Pron ≥ 500,000
- 50% if 500,000 > Available Pron ≥ 400,000
- 40% if 400,000 > Available Pron ≥ 300,000
- 35% if 300,000 > Available Pron ≥ 200,000
- 30% if 200,000 > Available Pron ≥ 100,000
- 25% if 100,000 > Available Pron [37]
Profitable investments[edit | edit source]
Name | Location | Condition | Availability | Price | Advantages | RP changes | Profits |
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Slum Fighting Ring N ▼ | 2nd House of Petitions |
SDF: Fighting Ring OFF |
Govern Yhilin II-IV |
15% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
|
+1 Janine |
R5: 75,000 Lifetime: 395,000 |
Sex Fighting Ring N ▼ | 2nd House of Petitions |
SDF: Sex Ring OFF |
Govern Yhilin III-IV |
25% |
Immediate:
Next cycle:
|
R5: 125,000 Lifetime: 605,000 | |
Sex Shop N ▼ | 2nd House of Petitions |
Prime DF Statue ON[22] |
Govern Yhilin II-IV |
|
Immediate:
|
R5: 165,000 Lifetime: 765,000 |
Non-profitable investments[edit | edit source]
Name | Location | Condition | Availability | Price | Advantages | RP changes |
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Arcane/Sexual magical agreement N ▼ | 2nd House of Petitions |
Arcane/Sexual Agreement OFF |
Govern Yhilin II-IV |
20% |
Immediate:
Helps during the Third Arclent War. |
+2 Janine |
Small Celebration N ◀ ∞ | 2nd House of Petitions |
Prime DF Statue ON[22] |
Govern Yhilin II-IV |
10% |
+1 Yhilin Acceptance |
+1 Janine |
Medium Celebration N ◀ ∞ | 2nd House of Petitions |
Prime DF Statue ON[22] |
Govern Yhilin II-IV |
20% |
+3 Yhilin Acceptance |
+2 Janine |
Large Celebration N ◀ ∞ | 2nd House of Petitions |
Prime DF Statue ON[22] |
Govern Yhilin II-IV |
30% |
+7 Yhilin Acceptance |
+3 Janine |
References[edit | edit source]
- ↑ https://ulmf.org/threads/sierra-lee-the-last-sovereign-updated-1-7-100-illustrated-scenes.6640/page-13#post-744377
- ↑ Provided that you have done all the quests and ask Megail for more money.
- ↑ For instance, if you chose not to invest in the Cache excavation before leaving Ari-Yhilina at the start of chapter 2, you have the option to buy the remnants of the expedition for the original price: 10,000.
- ↑ Prime something flags are set before something X/Chaosflags are undone, meaning that an additional round is needed before the former can be set.
- ↑ Only once per funding cycle
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 Talking to him the second time can help, or hinder several secret stats (higher score helps better): Yhilin, Yhilin Acceptance, Yhilin Chaos, and Social.
- ↑ If Chaos was 5 or higher after the battle.
- ↑ If Chaos was 10 or higher after the battle.
- ↑ If Collateral Damage was 20 or higher after the battle.
- ↑ All of the following:
Iron Cudgel OFF
Iron Cudgel II OFF
AriGarda OFF
AriGarda II OFF - ↑ This happens if you have chosen to send orcs into Ari-Yhilina to stop the coup and your Army Quality was 8 or lower.
- ↑ If Collateral Damage was 10 or higher after the battle.
- ↑ This happens if you never acquired Altina at any point.
- ↑ Yhilini Succubi Trade:
From R5: 400,000 ProN to 300,000 ProN
From R6: 550,000 ProN to 400,000 ProN
Mercenary Offices:
From R5: 150,000 ProN to 100,000 ProN
From R6: 250,000 ProN to 150,000 ProN - ↑ 1x Yhilini Orc Sword, 1x Yhilini Orc Armor, 1x Yhilini Orc Shield
- ↑ At the end of the previous funding cycle (includes stat changes from Point improvement and War cleanup investments) the following stats were:
Yhilini Collateral Damage ≤ 0
Yhilin Acceptance ≥ 45 or higher - ↑ At the end of the previous funding cycle (includes stat changes from Point improvement and War cleanup investments) the following stat was:
Yhilini Chaos ≤ 0 - ↑ At the end of the last funding cycle: Economic Chaos OFF
- ↑ If Yhilin Acceptance is 50 or more
- ↑ The conversation itself gives +1 Yhilin Acceptance even if you don't fund it.
- ↑ At the end of the last funding cycle: Merchant Quarter X OFF
- ↑ 22.0 22.1 22.2 22.3 22.4 At the end of the previous funding cycle (includes stat changes from Point improvement and War cleanup investments) the following stats were:
Yhilini Chaos ≤ 0
Yhilini Collateral Damage ≤ 0
Victory Points ≥ 25 - ↑ Victory > Damage ON
- ↑ From a suggestion by DukeLeto7, there is a special option: Never, that remove this investment from the House of Petitions, with a brief intervention from Aka.
- ↑ At the end of the last funding cycle: Court X OFF
- ↑ 26.0 26.1 At the end of the last funding cycle: Outskirt X OFF
- ↑ 27.0 27.1 This effectively means that this project can't appear before returning from the Elven kingdoms (cycle 2).
- ↑ At the end of the last funding cycle: Slum Shops X OFF
- ↑ 10% if Orc Discipline is 10 or more
20% if Orc Discipline is 8-9
30% if Orc Discipline is 6-7
50% if Orc Discipline is 5 or less - ↑ At the end of the last funding cycle: Slum Shops X OFF
- ↑ This is the initial investment of 25,000 or 50,000 ProN before the reunion, not the core lender investment.
- ↑ Only if purchased before the reunion
- ↑ 33.0 33.1 Magic Sales Synergy ON (Ardoheim Magic Trade ON andStineford: Magic Shop ON)
- ↑ Before or after the reunion
- ↑ Only if hired before the reunion
- ↑ 220,000 from the three Eustrin Investments (Eustrin Manufacturer can be switched for Premium Steel) - 40,000 from the Mercenary Investments
- ↑ This is unachievable without save editing since the lowest possible Available ProN value is 180,000
- ↑ Requires rebuilding and visiting the Slum Fighting Ring
- ↑ As she promises, Megail negotiates down the price.