Investments/Round 3: After the reunion

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You're not meant to know the effects of the investments, or to have a firm grasp of your financial future. I understand the desire for it, but that's what wikis and guides are for.
 
— Sierra Lee[1]
A brand new Ledger.

This page presents a compilation of all investments offered in the game, both those that can be funded by ProN, and Discretionary funds, and that one investment that is paid in Sx.

In addition to monetary profits and other effects, most investments also affect your relationship with your companions. Speaking with them will give you some hints.

Investment options become available after you arrive in Ari-Yhilina and foil the coup against the Widow Queen. The initial amount of ProN available to make investments depends on the amount of ProN you've given to Megail in Stineford. The minimum value is 50,000 and the maximum is 120,000[2]. Megail also offers you a ledger to keep track of your investments.

Sierra Lee has stated that you can make similar investments (for instance contracting two mercenary companies) to get better results, but it will be with diminishing returns.

You can spend your ProN in other avenues that don't appear as such in the Ledger[3]. They won't give profits in the form of ProN, but there will be other advantages to investing in them (most of them won't be shown in the game as such, but in the form of hidden advantages).

During Round 4: Discretionary funding and Round 6: Chapter 4 & 5 Investment smorgasbord you will receive funding several times during the round, these "sub-rounds" are referred to as "cycles" after this point.

Switches that look like this are named after the in code switches, some walkthrough pages will use them others won't. If there is only a single switch in both "Conditions" and "Advantages" sides it is likely the switch is used to indicate the switch for the investment itself. If there is more than one switch in either column, the other switches will have a foot note on how to set them ON.

So far, you get ProN returns from Megail at these points:

  1. At the start of chapter 2, although only 2 investments do so. They are marked in bold
  2. During the party split, Megail collects returns from some first-round investments in Ari-Yhilina. They are marked with this color.
  3. Near the end of chapter 2, when Simon returns from the Orgasmic Empire. They are marked with this color.
  4. During chapter 3, If Simon has the 2nd House of Petitions built, some of their personal assets will be turned into ProN before being shifted to the personal DF. These ProN returns are marked with this color
  5. At the end of chapter 3, after you have attended to the petitioners and pay your respects to the Fallen. They are marked with this color.
  6. In chapter 4 and 5, when you meet Megail in Stineford, and after major plot sequences. They are marked with This color

Pricing and other stuff associated with certain rounds are marked with that round's color (Note: To combat issues for the color blind pricing and Return on investment prices get an "RX:" in front of their numbers)

  1. Bold for round 1
  2. This color for round 2
  3. This color for round 3
  4. This color for Core Discretionary Funding
  5. This color for Personal Discretionary Funding
  6. This color for round 5
  7. This color for round 6
    • This color for the round 6 Erosian war bonus Cycle

The following symbols are also used to provide information on investments

  • N First time this investment is available
  • ◀ This investment is only available during this round
    • ◁ This investment is only available for about a cycle or less
    • ◁(1) This investment is only offered once before becoming unavailable
  • ▲ This investment has a (generally stronger version) available in (a) previous round(s)
  • ▼ This investment has a (generally weaker version) available in (a) later round(s)
  • ∞ This investment can be repeated indefinitely as long as the condition is met

Round 3: After the reunion, Ari-Yhilina and Ardford

During the business meeting, Megail gives you a resume of your investments (and the ProN of course). You also get 300,000 (or just 200,000 if you took money from Megail in chapter 1), plus any reward from the mine quest in Aka's route. Megail will also take 250,000 ProN to help equip the orc army.

Additional ProN gain[edit | edit source]

During the course of the chapter, you will be able to gain some Additional ProN from sources other than investments

Megail's personal money[edit | edit source]

Given when talking to her after the initial reunion, with the return varying between if you chose to use Acquire Money or not

  • 300,000 if you chose NOT to use Acquire Money during Round 1 (Megail Take OFF)
  • 200,000 if you chose to use Acquire Money during Round 1 (Megail Take ON)

Kickbacks[edit | edit source]

Mine kickback can be given with the returns depending on the choice made during Aka's Route:

Condition ProN awarded
Assisted House Thelon (Mine - Thelon ON)

10,000

Assisted House Jade (Mine - Jade ON)

20,000

Flooded the Mine with demons (Mine - Slums ON)

0[4]

Merchant guild kickback

During the Ardford summit, talk to the Merchant Guild Representative until he asks for your help. If you can make the "Advanced Alliance" vote fail without the help of the merchant guild, you will receive an additional 100,000 ProN

Bribes[edit | edit source]

During the Ardford summit you will be given 2 chances to bribe the Merchant Guild Representative to change their vote. Both bribes come at the cost of some Megail RP. However, the long-term effects of these bribes - should they change the outcome of a particular vote - may be worth the drawbacks.

Note: Each opportunity to bribe the Merchant Guild Representative will only be offered once, and, therefore, needs to be paid immediately.

Bribe Cost Effect RP penalty
New Unpeople Motion bribe N  ◁(1)

10,000

Guilds: Bribe ON
Changes the vote of the Merchant Guild faction from Yes to Nay.

-1 Megail

Orc Extermination bribe N  ◁(1)

100,000

Guilds: Bribe II ON
Changes the vote of the Merchant Guild faction from Yes to Nay.

-3 Megail

ProN to Sx[edit | edit source]

During the Ardford summit you can go to the Ardford bank and once again make use of the dubious ability to change ProN to Sx for a single time. This time though you choose the amount of Sx you want to gain, instead of the amount of ProN to redeem. Although the fees of 33.33% and 16.66% are basically some of the worst in the entire game.

Sx to gain ProN to Redeem if Ardan Bank is[5]
OFF ON
5,000 7,500 6,000
10,000 15,000 12,000
20,000 30,000 24,000

Actual investments[edit | edit source]


Ari-Yhilina[edit | edit source]

Profitable investments[edit | edit source]

Name Location Condition Price Advantages RP changes Profits[6] RoI per return
Yhilini Mine Processing  Miners' Junction

Mine Processing OFF

50,000

Mine Processing ON
Helps during Battle of Yhilin

+5 Megail

R4(PDF): "200,000"[6]
R5: 200,000
R6: 100,000

Lifetime[7]: 1,000,000

R4(PDF): 400%
R5: 400%
R6: 200%

Lifetime[7]: 2,000%

Ardoheim Magic Trade  Archon Inn

Ardoheim Magic Trade OFF

15,000[8] to 25,000

Ardoheim Magic Trade ON
+1 Economy
Helps during Third Arclent War
Increased returns when paired with Stineford Magic Shop

-

R4(PDF): "50,000" or "125,000"[6][9]
R5: 50,000 to 225,000[10]
R6: 65,000

Lifetime[7]: 570,000 to 745,000

R4(PDF): 200% to 833.33%
R5: 200% or 1500%
R6: 260% or 433.33%

Lifetime[7]: 2,280% to 4,966.67%

Yhilini Supplier  Outskirts

Yhilini Supplier OFF

15,000[8] to 20,000

Yhilini Supplier ON
+1 Economy
Helps during Battle of Yhilin
Gives Orc items at the Bloody Spire[11]

-

R4(PDF): "10,000"[6]
R5: 10,000
R6: 5,000

Lifetime[7]: 50,000

R4(PDF): 40% to 66.67%
R5: 40% to 66.67%
R6: 20% to 33.33%

Lifetime[7]: 250% or 333.33%

Yhilini Bank Core Lender N  Yhilini Bank

Yhilin Bank Full OFF

450,000[12] or 500,000

Yhilin Bank Full ON
Talking to the manager after the Battle of Yhilin

+5 Megail

R5: 150,000 to 300,000[14]
R6: 150,000

Lifetime: 1,350,000 to 1,500,000

R5: 30% to 66.67%
R6: 30% or 33.33%

Lifetime: 270% to 333.33%

Premium Steel Owner N  Premium Steel

Premium Steel II OFF

75,000[15] or 100,000

Premium Steel II ON
10% shop discount
Ability to craft Custom Equipment
Allows for crafting non-sexual sublime weapons.[16]

+2 Aka
+2 Hilstara

R5: 100,000
R6: 10,000

Lifetime: 180,000

R5: 100% or 133.33%
R6: 10% or 13.33%

Lifetime: 180% or 240%

Non-profitable investments[edit | edit source]

Name Location Condition Price[17] Advantages RP changes
Late Bridge Repair   The Court

Bridge Repair OFF
Bridge Repair Late OFF

5,000

Bridge Repair Late ON
Enables Infrastructure Project investment for chapter 3
After the elven kingdom visit

  • Bridge Repair ON

+2 Janine
+2 Carina

Yhilini Public Works  The Court

Yhilin Public Works OFF

5,000

Yhilin Public Works ON[18]

+5 Janine

Yhilini Public Works II N  The Court

Bought Yhilini Public Works during Chapter 1 - Early Chapter 2
Yhilin Public Works ON
Yhilin Public Works II OFF

25,000

Yhilin Public Works II OFF
+2 Yhilin

+5 Janine

Cache excavation sale  Miners' Junction

Cache Excavation OFF
Cache Excavation II OFF

10,000

Cache Excavation II ON
Severals succubi consumables, and equipment pieces[19]
A cache of corruption for Simon[20]
(You basically lose out on the ProN profit from the investment option)

+2 Yarra
+2 Qum

Iron Cudgel  Outskirts

Iron Cudgel OFF
Iron Cudgel II OFF

5,000
(R4(PDF): -"10,000" upkeep[6])

Iron Cudgel II ON
Helps during the Third Arclent War
Makes Iron Cudgel available for service at HQ in round 6.
After visiting the Elven Kingdoms.

  • Iron Cudgel ON
-
Dusty Horde  Outskirts

Dusty Horde OFF
Dusty Horde II OFF

10,000

Dusty Horde II ON
Helps during the Battle of Yhilin and its immediate aftermath.[21]

-
AriGarda Persuasion  Outskirts Did not hire AriaGarda during Chapter 1 - Early Chapter 2

AriGarda OFF
AriGarda II OFF

10,000

AriGarda II ON
No change in army scores, but can be convinced to work for House Rose.
Helps during the Battle of Yhilin
Increases reward from clearing the House Rose Warehouse in chapter 4[22].

-

Ardford[edit | edit source]

Profitable investments[edit | edit source]

Name Location Condition Price Advantages RP changes Profits RoI per return
Crystal Refiner N  Merchant's Guild

Crystal Refiner OFF

250,000[23] or 300,000

Crystal Refiner ON
+1 Ardoheim
Reduces the costs of Robin's Arcane Crystal[24].
Helps during the Ardan section of the Incubus War aftermath

R5: 225,000
R6: 55,000

Lifetime: 665,000

R5: 75% or 90%
R6: 18.33% or 22%

Lifetime: 221.67% to 266%

Ardford Supplier N  Merchant's Guild

Ardford Supplier OFF

50,000

Ardford Supplier ON
Helps during the Third Arclent War.

-

R5: 25,000
R6: 5,000

Lifetime: 65,000

R5: 50%
R6: 10%

Lifetime: 130%

Ardford Restaurant N  Business District

Ardford Restaurant OFF

25,000

Ardford Restaurant ON
+1 Ardoheim
+1 Economy
Needed for Orri's Quest
If Orri's Quest is completed

-

R5: 10,000
R6: 10,000 (Cycles 1 to 3)
R6: 10,000 or 25,000[26] (Cycles 4 and beyond)

Lifetime: 90,000 to 165,000

R5: 40%
R6: 40% (Cycles 1 to 3)
R6: 40% or 100% (Cycles 4 and beyond)

Lifetime: 360% to 660%

Sanitation Mages Guild N  Business District

Sanitation Mages Guild OFF

100,000

Sanitation Mages Guild ON
+2 Ardoheim
During the Ardan succession crisis, they are favorable to support Tyna[27]
Boosts Tak'Kan vote during the Council of Gawnfall.
Helps during Wynn's Quest

-

R5: 5,000
R6: 5,000

Lifetime: 45,000

R5: 5%
R6: 5%

Lifetime: 45%[28]

Mercenary Flotilla N  Business District

Ardoheim Naval OFF

250,000

Ardoheim Naval ON
+2 Ardoheim
+2 Economy
Helps during the Third Arclent War
Gives you more insight into Ghanth's business practices.

-

R5: 85,000
R6: 25,000

Lifetime: 285,000

R5: 34%
R6: 10%

Lifetime: 114%

Ardan Bank N  Business District

Ardan Bank OFF

300,000 to 1,000,000[29]

Ardan Bank ON
+5 Ardoheim
+3 to +5 Economy[30]
+1 Social (if Ardoheim score >= 15).
Better exchange rates ProN for Sx.
During Ardan succession crisis

-

R5: 200,000 to 450,000[31]
R6: 300,000

Lifetime: 2,600,000 to 2,850,000

R5: 20% to 150%
R6: 30% to 100%

Lifetime: 260% to 950%

Ivalan Bank N  Religious District

Ivalan Bank OFF

450,000

Ivalan Bank ON
+2 Religion
+2 Economy
Helps during the Council of Gawnfall

+3 Carina

R5: 175,000 to 350,000[32]
R6: 225,000

Lifetime: 1,975,000 to 2,150,000

R5: 38.89% to 77.78%
R6: 50%

Lifetime: 438.89% to 477.78%

Non-profitable investments[edit | edit source]

Name Location Condition Price Advantages RP changes
New Unpeople Motion bribe N  Ardford Palace

Unpeople vote has yet to occur
Guilds: Bribe OFF

10,000

Guilds: Bribe ON
Changes the vote of the Merchant Guild faction from Yes to Nay.

-1 Megail

Orc Extermination bribe N  Ardford Palace

Orc Extermination vote has yet to occur
Guilds: Bribe II ON

100,000

Guilds: Bribe II ON
Changes the vote of the Merchant Guild faction from Yes to Nay.

-3 Megail

Order of Silence N  Military Offices

Order of Silence OFF

10,000, 50,000 or 100,000[33]

Order of Silence  ON
+1 Ardoheim
Order of Silence score is set to

  • 10 if donation is 10,000 ProN
  • 50 if donation is 50,000 ProN
  • 100 if donation is 100,000 ProN

Allows access to the empty lot (which gives several chances to increase Order of Silence score)
Helps during the Third Arclent War (Better with higher score).
During the Ardan succession crisis, you can ask that they welcome Kalant among their ranks.
Helps during the Council of Gawnfall (Better with higher score)
Helps during the Erosian War (Better with higher score)

-
Merchant's Guild Membership N  Merchant's Guild

Has 1,000,000 liquid ProN available
Merchant's Guild OFF

100,000

Merchant's Guild ON
Gives the title and privileges of an official merchant.
Extra clues for the Unpeople Investigations quest[34] and some misc details (like getting access to the Guild's wine cellar).
During the Ardan succession crisis, you can use their resources to learn more about Ghanth.
+5 Economy
+2 Social
+3 Ardoheim
+1 Yhilin
+1 Aram
+1 Eustrin
+1 Zirantia
+1 Darghelon
+1 Ghenalon
+1 Tatseni
+1 Stenai

+5 Megail

Ghenalese Expatriate Program N  Yhilini Embassy

Ghenalon InvestHint ON[35]
Ghenalon Investment OFF

120,000

Ghenalon Investment ON
+1 Yhilin
+1 Ghenalon
The Ghenalese Ambassador will vote yes for the War Vaults motion at the Ardford summit.

+5 Fheliel

Deeds of Vinario N  Embassies

Vinario Kingdom OFF

100,000 to 5,000,000[36]

Vinario Kingdom ON
Helps in the Third Arclent war aftermath

  • Can greatly help Tak'kan if given to Grubbak[37]

If bought for 4,000,000 or more

Has consequences for not buying it during Chapter 3: After the 3AW.

Set to 10, -20 to +5 Megail[38]
-5 to +0 Hilstara[39]
+0 to +5 Yarra[40]
+0 to +5 Trin[41]
+5 Nalili[42]


References[edit | edit source]

  1. https://ulmf.org/threads/sierra-lee-the-last-sovereign-updated-1-7-100-illustrated-scenes.6640/page-13#post-744377
  2. Provided that you have done all the quests and ask Megail for more money.
  3. For instance, if you chose not to invest in the Cache excavation before leaving Ari-Yhilina at the start of chapter 2, you have the option to buy the remnants of the expedition for the original price: 10,000.
  4. Overflowing the mine with demons allows for the highly profitable Private Mineshaft investment during round 4.
  5. Having invested in the bank gives you better conversion rates
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 The dark teal colored ProN between double quotes "" is ProN used to calculate how large the personal Discretionary funds will be.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 Excludes the R4(PDF) values as those are not actual funds.
  8. 8.0 8.1 Invested In Bridge Repair during Chapter 1 - Early Chapter 2
  9. Magic Sales Synergy ON (Ardoheim Magic Trade ON andStineford: Magic Shop ON)
  10. 225,000 if Stineford: Magic Shop ON and Ardoheim CD < 30
    125,000 if Stineford: Magic Shop ON and Ardoheim CD ≥ 30
    75,000 if Stineford: Magic Shop OFF and Ardoheim CD < 30
    50,000 if Stineford: Magic Shop OFF and Ardoheim CD ≥ 30
  11. 2x Orc Charm
  12. invested in Yhilini Bank (Yhilin Bank ON)
  13. After the Battle of Yhilin
  14. 300,000 If Yhilin CD <5
    250,000 If Yhilin CD = 5-9
    200,000 If Yhilin CD = 10-14
    150,000 If Yhilin CD ≥ 15
  15. Invested in Premium Steel (Premium Steel ON)
  16. Requires having build the Entity a new body
  17. The upkeep is deducted from the total of your profits (matches color at time of return) in the case of the mercenary companies
  18. Places statues all over the city
  19. 3x Lust draught, 3x Collar, 1x Slave Collar, 1x Slave's Pin, 1x Charm of perversion, 1x Fetish whip
  20. It adds +10 AGI and +10 LUK to Simon's stats.
  21. Mostly by preventing the negatives from not hiring them.
  22. Gain +2 with one of Ardoheim, New Givini, Chalice States, or Tak'Kan.
  23. Has Robin's Potions License in inventory
  24. From 6000 Sx to 1000 Sx.
  25. 2x Heavy Orc Sword
  26. With Orri's Quest, the Ardford Restaurant payout increases, while the Potions and More! payout drops to zero.
  27. So far, with no real effects.
  28. Yes, this is a loss since it is below 100%.
  29. 300,000 if Ardoheim score is ≥ 20
    400,000 if Ardoheim score is 15-19
    600,000 if Ardoheim score is 10-14
    800,000 if Ardoheim score is 5-9
    1,000,000 if Ardoheim score is < 5
  30. +5 if Ardoheim score >=10
    +4 if Ardoheim score is 5-9
    +3 if Ardoheim score < 5.
  31. 450,000 If Ardoheim CD < 20
    400,000 If Ardoheim CD = 20-24
    350,000 If Ardoheim CD = 25-29
    300,000 If Ardoheim CD = 30-39
    250,000 If Ardoheim CD = 40-49
    200,000 If Ardoheim CD ≥ 50
  32. 350,000 If Ardoheim CD < 20
    325,000 If Ardoheim CD = 20-24
    275,000 If Ardoheim CD = 25-29
    225,000 If Ardoheim CD = 30-39
    200,000 If Ardoheim CD = 40-49
    175,000 If Ardoheim CD ≥ 50
  33. You can choose the size of the donation
  34. With more relationship points gain for Dari.
  35. After the War Vote, talk to the Ghenalon ambassador in the embassy
  36. 100,000 if Vinario Deal = 0
    200,000 if Vinario Deal = 1
    300,000 if Vinario Deal = 2
    500,000 if Vinario Deal = 3
    1,000,000 if Vinario Deal = 4
    1,500,000 if Vinario Deal = 5
    2,000,000 if Vinario Deal = 6
    3,000,000 if Vinario Deal = 7
    4,000,000 if Vinario Deal = 8
    5,000,000 if Vinario Deal ≥ 9
  37. +5 Tak'Kan,
    +1 Arclent Acceptance,
    +5 Balia
  38. Set to 10 If bought for 5,000,000 or 4,000,000 ProN or more
    -20 If bought for 3,000,000 ProN
    -10 If bought for 2,000,000 ProN
    +0 If bought for 1,500,000 ProN or 1,000,000 ProN
    +1 If bought for 500,000 ProN
    +2 If bought for 300,000 ProN
    +3 If bought for 200,000 ProN
    +5 If bought for 100,000 ProN
  39. -5 If bought for 3,000,000 ProN
    -3 If bought for 2,000,000 ProN
    -1 If bought for 1,500,000 ProN
    +0 If bought for 1,000,000 ProN or less
  40. +0 If bought for 2,000,000 ProN or more
    +1 If bought for 1,500,000 ProN
    +2 If bought for 1,000,000 ProN
    +3 If bought for 500,000 ProN, or 300,000 ProN
    +4 If bought for 200,000 ProN
    +5 If bought for 100,000 ProN
  41. +0 If bought for 1,000,000 ProN or more
    +2 If bought for 500,000 ProN
    +3 If bought for 300,000 ProN
    +4 If bought for 200,000 ProN
    +5 If bought for 100,000 ProN
  42. If bought for 3,000,000 ProN or less