Ardan succession crisis finale

This page describes all the political manipulations related to the coronation of the Queen-in-waiting during Chapter 5. As such, it has strong connections to the Ardan succession crisis guide (check that page for more information). As many other pages in this category, this page contains SPOILERS.

In the creation of this guide, the primary sources are the spreadsheet created by Grim8P (link) and the info shared in this forum thread.

Variables
Simon stats:
 * Economy &ge; :
 * Social &ge; SS 50:
 * Religion &ge; :


 * Arclent Acceptance &ge; 1
 * Ivalan Acceptance &ge; 12

Past decisions from the Succession crisis section:
 * Luanell's married status (married to Bhakan, Farnan or single)
 * Mestan help: fake attempt against Bhakan or stall Donovan
 * Jhenno's debt: Religion or Politics
 * Kalant's suitor score
 * Ignias's suitor score
 * Bhakan's suitor score

Council of Gawnfall
 * Succubi accepted
 * Church diverges
 * Promotion vote: Herin/Kaskia

Warden of the south:
 * Uneanun camps

Incubus War aftermath:
 * Incubus_War_aftermath is ON or OFF

Harem members:
 * Janine: requires affection locked (she joins the harem)
 * Lynine: Darghelon's country score &ge; 15
 * Megail: requires Yhilin Final state to appear
 * Orilise: presence guaranteed
 * Trin: it's relevant if she is alive or dead. Also the following copies are relevant:
 * Bhakan's guard
 * Ghanth's Aide

Country scores: Darghelon &ge; 25

Research: Orc diversification completed unlocks Orgonon

Investment: Sanitation Mages Guild

Quests completed: Dari's request

Outputs

 * Personal Strength: it represents the power that Tyna yields as the Queen of Ardoheim and how much she can resist the control of powerful Ardan forces.


 * Ardan Approval: it represents how much the Ardan population will be disrupted by political outcomes.


 * Candidate's personal score: it represents how the candidate is perceived by the public opinion.

The first two values start at zero and you want them to go up. In the case of the third one, you want to increase the score of the character that you want to marry Tyna. You can unlock a scene with Simon taking Tyna to the altar if she has +15 Personal Strength and +15 Ardan Approval.

Differences in function of the chosen husband-to-be
Each character have different thresholds to get the best result. That represents how their personalities are perceived by the Ardan and their personal power confronts with Tyna's. Apart from the Alonon's Helm (visible reward for getting the best result) the increase of country scores varies from one candidate to the others.

In the projection room, candidate score is shown as:


 * Bhakan: Requires Personal Strength &ge; 20 (the highest) and Ardan Approval &ge; 9 (the lowest) for the best outcome if he is chosen. His influence in Ardoheim (+5) but the less global influence (19). His initial score is 5, but that is modified by his Suitor score at the end of the Ardan Succession crisis and if he was married to Luanell.


 * Ignias: Requires Personal Strength &ge; 15 and Ardan Approval &ge; 12 for the best outcome if he is chosen. His influence in Ardoheim is identical to Bhakan's (+5) but the it has more global influence (22). His initial score is 3 (Average in game, as the table it's the same one as Bhakan's), but that is modified by his Suitor score at the end of the Ardan Succession crisis.


 * Kalant: Requires Personal Strength &ge; 12 and Ardan Approval &ge; 15 for the best outcome if he is chosen. In Ardoheim, his influence is very low (+1) but his global prestige is notable (25), specially in the new states and Yhilin. His initial score is 1, but that is modified by his Suitor score at the end of the Ardan Succession crisis.

Free boosts
These actions increases Personal Strength score and don't require to take any decision, just meet their requirements.


 * Disturbances: locate them in the order mentioned below to sum Personal Strength:
 * 1) Hallways (middle top)
 * 2) Library (on the left part)
 * 3) Bedrooms (bottom right)
 * 4) Dining Room (middle left of the map)
 * 5) Garden (the dark "room" at the middle)
 * 6) Bhakan's Room (top right)
 * 7) Tax Office (bottom left)
 * 8) Council Chambers (you'll need to finish the Ambassador's gambit to access this room)
 * 9) Royal Office (in a room right of Tyna)


 * Ambassador's gambit: speak with our old acquaintance in the tax office (the man with the glasses) and investigate the council room (it will trigger an easy fight). If your Arclent Acceptance is &ge; 1, you get Personal Strength.
 * Succubi makeover: once you have reached Ardan Approval score &ge; 3, interact with the shiny spot above Tyna's sprite for another Personal Strength.
 * Antarion: just speak with him to increase Personal Strength score by.
 * Official in the library: if you discovered who send the demons against Tyna in the Ardan Succession back in chapter 4, you can absolve Kalant from any suspicions. That gives to Kalant final score and  Personal Strength.

Kalant
He is the weakest of the three candidates, so Tyna refuses to marry him if the Ardan Approval is too low (&ge; 5). Some of the past interactions with him can increase his initial score, most of them will be calculated after talking with him at the library and seeing the interaction with Ignias in the garden.

If you're planning to choose Kalant as the future husband, don't allow him to act when you speak with him in his room. The thresholds for the best result to get are Personal Strength &ge; 12 and Ardan Approval &ge;15.

If you're planning to marry Tyna to one of the other two contenders, speak with him in his room and allow him to act (you have to meet him in the library and oversee the scene between Ignias and him in the garden first).

Ignias
If Ignias is your choice, boost his reputation as much as you can. Use your contacts inside the palace to get at least Personal Strength &ge; 15 and Ardan Approval &ge; 12 for the best results.

If you're planning to wed Tyna with any other of the two candidates, you can safely play matchmaker with Megail and/or Lynine. That will net Ardan Approval if you choose Yhilini women or Darghelese women (with a Darghelon's country score &ge; 25; just  if Darghelon's country score &ge; 15).

Bhakan
If Bhakan is your bet for the post of King Consort, boost his reputation as much as you can. Be advised that you will have to prioritize Personal Strength (&ge; 20) over Ardan Approval (&ge; 9).

Bhakan's Final suitor score has a few initial calculations at the start of the event:

Bhakan can be spoken with in his room on the east side of the palace. How effective your interaction with him is depends of the degree of control over him, regulated by the variable Bhakan's control which is calculated based on decisions from the previous succession crisis:

There are 3 choices in the initial conversation:


 * Implicitly Threaten: Gives Final Bhakan score and ends the conversation.
 * Give no response OR Attempt to reason: See the effects listed below.

If Simon does not implicitly threaten Bhakan, there are three possible scenarios depending on the Bhakan control score:


 * Bhakan's control 0: no changes
 * Bhakan's control 1-2: Ardan Approval.
 * Bhakan &ge; 3: See the table below:

Ghanth
The strength of his support is conditioned by the influence of his aide copied by Trin or not. If Trin copied him, the state of Trin (dead or alive) is a factor too. Do not speak to Ghanth if the aide was copied and Trin is dead, as, in this case, speaking to Ghanth will give Personal Strength and  Ardan Approval.

Otherwise Ghanth will offer to help support Tyna directly or by improving Ardan trade.

Jhenno
How he helps depends on the decision that the player chooses back in the previous succession crisis:

Donovan
How much the son of the Duke of Stineford helps Tyna's position is determined by Donovan's score, that was affected at the previous accession crisis and the Return to Stineford sections:

The projection room gives a hint of what the Donovan score was after Donovan is spoken with:

Farnan
Farnan's actions depend on the Farnan control variable from the previous succession crisis. If Farnan control is 4 or less, Farnan stays neutral and has no effect:


 * If he is married to Luanell, he says:
 * Otherwise:

If Farnan control is 5 or more, then Farnan will offer help. The Farnan score and the choice between marrying Luanell or not are the conditions relevant in how strong his support is:

Orgonon
Only appears if the Orc Diversification research has been completed. He can help by doing one the following actions:

Steward of the Kingdom
Only appears if the switch is set to ON. This is from accepting Tyna's help during the Ardford section of the Incubus war aftermath:

As you can see, the worst option is to ignore him. The penalty for ignoring the steward will be applied once Tyna makes a decision on who to marry.

Harem members

 * Janine

Janine only appears if she has joined the harem by marrying Simon.

After a first conversation with Tyna with no mechanical effects, in the second one there are two decisions to make:

The other option is how Yhilin will deal with the candidates:


 * Megail

She appears in Ignias's room (only if the Walkthrough is ON). She offers to find Yhilini marriageable women for Ignias to meet.


 * Lynine

She appears in Ignias's room (only if the Darghelon's score is &ge; 15, although you need 25 for getting the best result). She offers to find Darghelese marriageable women for Ignias to meet.


 * Elleani

She appears in the library if the Warden of the South quest has been completed. She offers two options when spoken to:


 * Orilise

She appears in the projection room after the garden scene between Ignias and Kalant has been viewed. Orilise offers the option to trade off some of Tyna's personal power for more stability in Ardoheim or vice versa:

New Givini Representatives

 * Uneanun (Blue scarf)

Uneanun actions will depend on Simon's economy score and the decision, if any, that was taken to clear Uneanun's mind during the Warden of the South

In the first conversation with him his personal score is calculated. This score will be relevant once he is spoken with a second time:

If Simon's economy score is &ge;, when speaking with Uneanun a second time, he will offer to support one of the candidates and will give an additional bonus based on Uneanun's score:


 * Support Bhakan: Bhakan Final,  Ardan Approval
 * Support Ignias: Ignias Final,  Ardan Approval
 * Support Kalant: Kalant Final,  Personal Strength

If Simon's economy score is &le;, when speaking with Uneanun a second time, he will offer a choice of how to support Tyna and will give an additional bonus based on Uneanun's score:


 * Support her strength: Personal Strength
 * Support Ardan stability: Ardan Approval


 * Etuanun (Green scarf)

Etuanun conversation depends on Simon's social score:


 * Luanell

If Luanell was advised to not marry either Farnan or Bhakan, she is free agent in the southeastern rooms. Speaking with her gives two options:


 * Support Tyna: Personal Strength
 * Ease Ardan Concerns: Ardan Approval

Deputy High Priestess

 * Herin

Her initial conversation will give a malus in two scenarios:

Otherwise ( or ), no changes.

The next conversation has two parts. The first evaluates the strength of Simon's Religion score:

The second allows to promote the chosen candidate as husband. It depends of the Ivalan acceptance score:


 * Kaskia

Her initial conversation will give a malus if:

Otherwise ( or ), no changes.

The next conversation has two parts. The first evaluates the strength of Simon's Religion score:

The second always decrease Tyna's stats. How big the damage is depends of the Ivalan acceptance score:

If you choose to ignore her, you get the following penalties. The penalties for ignoring her will be applied once Tyna makes a decision on who to marry:

Sanitation Guild Mage
The representative mage from the sanitation guild can be spoken with in the southeastern rooms.


 * If the sanitation guild was invested in: Personal Strength,  Ardan Approval
 * If the sanitation guild was not invested in: Personal Strength

Outcomes
Once the garden scene between Kalant and Ignias has occured, talking to Tyna will give you the option to make a final decision on who Tyna will marry out of the available choices (Bhakan, Ignias, and if he qualifies, Kalant).

Upon choosing to make a final decision, several final penalties that were listed earlier will be applied.

If you're able to get 15 Tyna's Strength AND 15 Ardan Approval at this point, Simon can walk Tyna to the altar in a mock ceremony.

As you can see, Personal Strength's values changes the country scores of the nations of Arclent and Ardan Approval modifies Ardoheim's score further plus decides if the party receives Alonon's Helm or not.

Marrying Bhakan
Tyna choosing to marry Bhakan gives: Megail,  Slutty Altina,  Sane Altina,  Lynine,  Orilise,  Elleani,  Iris, and  Lilith.

Some final changes to Bhakan's final score based on the other suitor's actions:

Finally, rewards are given based on each of the final values for Bhakan final, personal strength, and Ardan approval.

First Bhakan's final score:

Next, Tyna's personal strength:

And finally, Ardan approval:

Marrying Ignias
Tyna choosing to marry Ignias gives: Aka,  Yarra,  Qum,  Robin,  Hilstara,  Megail,  Janine,  Carina,  Sarai,  Slutty Altina,  Sane Altina,  Varia (both version),  Esthera,  Nalili,  Vhala,  Dari,  Ginasta,  Lynine,  Orilise,  Wynn,  Riala,  Iris, and  Fheliel.

Some final changes to Ignias's final score based on the other suitor's actions:

Finally, rewards are given based on each of the final values for Ignias final, personal strength, and Ardan approval.

First Ignias's final score:

Next, Tyna's personal strength:

And finally, Ardan approval:

Marrying Kalant
Tyna choosing to marry Ignias gives: Aka,  Yarra,  Qum,  Robin,  Hilstara,  Megail,  Janine,  Carina,  Sarai,  Slutty Altina,  Sane Altina,  Varia (both version),  Esthera,  Nalili,  Vhala,  Dari,  Ginasta,  Lynine,  Orilise,  Wynn,  Uyae,  Elleani,  Riala,  Iris,  Fheliel, and  Lilith.

If either Kalant's final score at this point is 2 or less or if Ardan approval is 4 or less, Tyna refuses to marry Kalant. For the purposes of the calculation, the check is performed before the Ardan Approval penalty from not speaking with steward of Ardoheim:

Some final changes to Kalant's final score based on the other suitor's actions:

Finally, rewards are given based on each of the final values for Kalant final, personal strength, and Ardan approval.

First Kalant's final score:

Next, Tyna's personal strength:

And finally, Ardan approval: